Not Nice, Remember the Children

Photographed in front of White Hill Middle School where kindergarten to fifth graders attend the Ross Valley Charter School. This isn’t meant to inform prospective Charter parents, this is meant to intimidate them but the effect has been to harass and frighten the children and parents of RVC.

 

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Nice combo of Stand and Children for Change magnets. What kind of change, kids? Who is modeling what? How about less symbolic charity and a little more compassionate behavior toward others in our own community?

C4C
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C4C

This all makes sense. The Audubon is a Children for Change partner , and the Waltons are an Audubon partner . That’s why mom colored a Walton poster and stuck it in the car window next to her C4C magnet . Coloring the poster is so fun!! Doing the research takes a little too much sophistication

When are RVC parents going to protest Manor kids and their EL school with Walton signs on the way to school ? El and Waltons have been in bed for nineteen years.

What a wicked web we weave.
Welcome to Marin

Anonymous
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I just did a search of children for change with walton foundation – came up with nothing. But I did see a letter confirming a big fat amount of money paid directly to RVC.

Stand for uh
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Stand for uh

C4C partners with Audubon. Audubon partners with Waltons . Scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours .
Regardless when you look up EL school you sure do find the Waltons . El is sitting in the Waltons back pocket .
Move that crazy car over to Manor !

A Realer Liberal
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A Realer Liberal

So you bring names and scorn and bullying and then complain about the publishing of a public display. What, it’s okay to stalk and intimidate the charter kids but don’t even think of criticizing a Standinista. Hilarious!

angie
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angie

From the perspective of the parents Stand does stalk and intimidate, that’s pretty much all they can do. And you know how it goes, right: You must pay attention to the one feeling abused.
That’s why we think they operate at the behest of district leadership. They get to harass and bully and march and yell and the district looks the other way and pretends it is providing leadership. District leadership is actually to call their high-priced LA lawyers.

Anonymous
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Remember labelling all stand people as stalkers or intimidators is as bad as saying all RVC parents are bad. Let’s get ourselves in check here.

Anon
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Anon

Stalked a parked car? This is getting good.
Is thIs Children for Change community service ? 😂

Politically correct
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Politically correct

Reported to the police for hanging a dog poop bag on a Stand sign . Got to love boooooring rich white suburban neighborhood squabbles.
Meanwhile the collective cheers echoed through the Ross Valley from ALL the hoods sick an tired of the ugly ass signs.

Stand founder Bennet also claims RVC put nails in her car tire. Not once but several times .
Stand is a freaking cult of coo- cucko .

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Live my values damnit !
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Live my values damnit !

The real socialist is here in the comments first. The blAzing hypocrites are always the first to point out others hypocrisy.
Stand is spontaneously combusting before our eyes.
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Anonymous
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RVC has aligned with billionaire special interests. I would be interested to know how the parents reconcile this in their mind. I think the current thinking is school districts receive money too. Also not to examine this claim too closely as it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Now they hide behind their kids from the furor. Please don’t let our kids see your posters about billionaire agendas. They might see them and be scared. Have you ever thought to really examine what you are doing? Have you ever thought that taking as much space as you can by nefarious means… Read more »

Anonymous
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You have consistently over estimated your in-district enrollment. This hurts children way more than seeing a poster in a car.

A Realer Liberal
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A Realer Liberal
Anonymous
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And? RVC consistently over estimates their enrollment and grabs more space than they need. The entire community knows this already. This is not being good neighbors, not even close.

Teachers unite
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Teachers unite

Who is the entire community ? Are you the strongest person in the world too?
Why do Standers always have to validate what they say with “the whole world agrees”?
Try , “I think …,”

angie
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angie

Sorry, Prop 39 doesn’t work that way. I know you “think” it does because of what you’ve been told but here’s how it really works:
here: https://rvsd-outliers.com/the-rvc-intent-to-enroll/
and here: https://rvsd-outliers.com/prop-39-facts-not-hearsay/

Anonymous
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The first year, yes, the enrollment was way overestimated. It was hard to know how many people who signed Intent forms would actually show up. RVC paid a hefty fine for that. The second year, they have (as of now) overestimated by about 20 in-district kids. And new students may still be enrolling. That overestimation is not even enough to qualify for a penalty! (There’s a buffer of 25 students or 10% of estimated, whichever is more.) It’s pretty darn close. And by spring, when it matters, it may well be even closer. So stop acting like this is a… Read more »

Really?
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Really?

And, that, is the problem. RVC is short about 22 students and you’re absolutely right, they have another law on their side that says they get a buffer and that buffer equals about 1 classroom and that is not right. RVC should be a good neighbor and give that classroom back. As of now they have 8 classrooms for 122 students and that works out to be around, what? 15 per class? How is that fair and equivalent? And they still yell and scream and cry VICTIM?

AB
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You are pretending that the forty out of district children don’t exist . There are actual forty human being children sitting in seats at the RVC right next to the 120 something In district children. Charters are required by state law to accept all applications if they have space . When 15 ID kids take seats first , that leaves a handful of seats that legally and rightfully belong to OD students . There is no pay by chair deal going on. Nothing sneaky or back handed. If the State Board of Ed , the CA dept of education ,… Read more »

Matty
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Matty

You should get clarification on the process before making loud noises.

Teachers unite
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Teachers unite

Bagley screwed everyone putting the charter at Whitehill. RVSD Teachers should unite to get rid of him. They could get him out quick.

Anonymous
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It was the best solution. I tend to agree.

Politically correct
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Politically correct

Best solution ? According to D Bagley WH can not accommodate even one more classroom after declaring to the entire community it can accommodate the Charter fully enrolled. WH can’t even accommodate the charter in their second year ! Bagley better pull some money out of a hat with those rabbits or every RVSD education dollar will go to lawyers trying to fight the charter classrooms so it can’t grow. Including the latest sleazy contract with ICE enabling T Reuters . All this Instead of opening a spare campus. Agree with comment that says teachers need to organize and dump… Read more »

Anonymous
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The use of prop 39 put the district between a rock and a hard place.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Apparently you don’t believe entities are entitled to the rule of law?

Vigil ante neighborhood attacks more aligned with your preferences?

A Realer Liberal
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A Realer Liberal

Where did hear that the charter aligned with anybody? And what does “aligned” mean to you? And your post is silly in light of the “Law.” You can do some fact gathering here:
https://rvsd-outliers.com/the-rvc-intent-to-enroll/

and here:
https://rvsd-outliers.com/prop-39-facts-not-hearsay/

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Apparently all parents have reconciled this in their minds , district or charter . You can not have a Walton partnered program at Manor school *YES EL IS A WALTON PARTNERED PROGRAM* as defined by both the Walton and EL websites , and then throw tomato’s at RVC for accepting a grant.
The signs and indignation are simply absurd with hypocrisy.

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There is no hypocrisy. The district PAYS money to an organization that accepts money from the Waltons. the charter TAKES money from the Waltons. RVSD does not take any money from the Waltons but RVC does. paying for something is not the same as receiving money. pathetic that this needs to be explained over and over.

123
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Let’s clarify: RVC is a free local grown local owned curriculum . It’s a public school program that received one Walton grant and all RV children benefit. EL at Manor is national chain public program paid for by RVSD . EL exists because of its twenty year partnership with Waltons and other billionaire investors . EL is accessible to children zoned for Manor school. Which program one more aligned with local parents values? The absolute awesomeness of it is parents decide for themselves ! They can research the programs , physically tour the schools, and decide for themselves what approach… Read more »

Anonymous
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One Walton grant of over a quarter million dollars? That is big money

Puzzled
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Puzzled

Why use words like “pathetic?” Why not just state your position about why you don’t think it’s hypocrisy and forgo the derogatory language? Words like that point to an anger that doesn’t make sense to me.

Anonymous
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Let’s clarify further. RVC accepts corporate $$ to continue to offer, improve and further develop an independent teacher-designed and controlled school. RVSD pays a corporation $$ to impose a corporatized curriculum that is franchised, clearly top-down, and externally devised.

But we’re supposed to all get on board with the latter being far superior?

Anonymous
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Manor PAYS for the EL program.
RVC sought out an accepted a huge amount of grant money from Walton.
Do you not understand the difference?

123
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Personally I’d rather be given no strings money from the Waltons for my public school, than pay for Walton sponsored programming . Think the consensus would agree on that one !
Grants are a good thing. No school turns away free money . In fact public schools have benefited from over a billion dollars of Walton money . Are all those schools aligned with right wing politics.
Nope

Anonymous
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I’d like to appreciate wealthy family foundations for donating money to public education, regardless of the form! Geez, we’re all really lucky that these programs are being supported by foundations; there aren’t enough tax dollars to give all kids a quality education.

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I couldn’t agree more. We are 46th in funding in the US. I say if private foundations are willing to contribute money to public education, it is a blessing. Every few years the GOP attempts to abolish the entire Department of Education. If the party in currently in power (for who knows how long ) abhors the project of public education, us public schoolers have to be scrappy and fend for ourselves. The grant from the Walton Foundation (which also supports NPR and many other worthwhile causes) is specifically for schools that are teacher lead and directed, rather than a… Read more »

Puzzled
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Puzzled

Why the hostile, “Do you not understand the difference?” You can hold an opposing position without explaining it with hostility.

Matty
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Matty

You might appreciate reading up on Prop 39, the Intent to Enroll, and California charter law facts. I found all of these resources very informative.

From CDE Prop 39> https://www.cde.ca.gov/sp/cs/as/proposition39.asp
From CCSA> http://www.ccsa.org/operating/admissions/
Easy reading> https://rvsd-outliers.com/the-rvc-intent-to-enroll/
Why to question your leaders> https://rvsd-outliers.com/a-psychological-manipulation-trick-to-galvanize-support/

Anonymous
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Are “billionaires with special interests” inherently bad? In this case, you are referring to a foundation that has an interest in creating schools that give teachers autonomy in the classroom as a way of driving positive innovation for all public schools. I also take issue with the phrase “taking as much space as you can by nefarious means.” The prop 39 process was done in a completely transparent way and followed the letter of the law. STAND repeatedly throws language like this around, and that is what is truly nefarious. This neighborhood is blessed with four excellent public schools and… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Agreed. RVC is following the law. People who disagree with the law can work to change it. That’s done in Sacramento, not on lawn signs around town.

A Realer Liberal
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A Realer Liberal

From what I heard the teacher you’re referring to apologized. That’s not enough for your kind and enlightened heart?

Anonymous
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Seriously?
You go out on the street to decorate your car with crazy signs, then complain that someone comes by and takes a picture of it?

And this statement is a beauty: “RVC created Stand.” Right. You guys are really nuts.

Anonymous
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Eww From my stand point I see lots of people engaged with their children’s schooling. Totally understandable. Yet, the people perpetrating this page sound really mean. So many blames and no solutions. They are repeatedly asking the other side to fix their problem !??? I’m very tired of this crooked deal we have here in Ross valley. I’m a real public school Marin resident since 1980. It’s hard to take these newcomers who probably moved hereto benefit from our good schools but now they want to change our good and invite the gross billionaires to “fix” the system.. I feel… Read more »

Puzzled
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Puzzled

Why the hostility? My guess is that people come to the community for many different reasons. Can you explain what you mean by “crooked deal” factually without derision? I don’t know what you mean. It’s okay to hold different perspectives, but the hostility I’ve heard from recordings of trustees at board meetings, read on posts by community members and seen on signs crammed in parked cars doesn’t speak well for the aggressors.

Anonymous
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Many of the folks involved with RVC have also lived in Marin since the 80s. They have deep roots in this community. MAP, the program on which RVC was modeled, was developed by Ross Valley parents in the 80s. They were all “real public school” Marin residents. The people who send their kids to RVC today are also “real public school” families, whether they’ve been here for decades or moved to Fairfax specifically to enroll at RVC (yes, there are people moving here because they want this free, public, alternative education for their kids).

Anonymous
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I guess we are all being moderated now. RVC seeks to control the message. Unfortunately ending the discussion.

-Editor
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-Editor

Perhaps ending the discussion for you.

Anonymous
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I’ve seen this before on the Facebook page. It leads me to the conclusion that RVC are desperate to control the message. I’m not particularly interested in participating in an RVC echo chamber. I am here for true discussion. We shall see. Good will to all.

-Editor
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This site is independent of RVC. We don’t like the RVSD and Stand behavior.
We welcome discussion.
We currently hold ALL comments for moderation and will not tolerate nastiness and unsupported comments, from anybody. Write like you want to be published and want an answer.
We are surprised that this has to be explained.

Anonymous
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No need to get touchy, As I explained the Facebook page is terrible at allowing any kind of debate. Was hoping this would not be the same.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Editor – I happen to have a Stand magnet. I am absolutely against any kind of corporate interference in public education. Does that make me badly behaved? We have to stop with these blanket statements.

-Editor
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-Editor

Those conditions don’t make you badly behaved at all. But I would say that an educational grant (meaning: to be used as seen fit) from any source is indeed a positive for the receiving organization. And it doesn’t imply “corporate interference”, in my view. Can you explain how a grant = corporate interference?

AB
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AB

The district receives grants from Best Buy and the Gates Foundation. Do a simple google search and it’s very unlikely you will agree with the politics and money trails following those billionaires. Are these grants accepted by RVSD “corporate interference” ?

ANon
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ANon

Stand will not alllow charter supporters to comment at all on their FB Page . Is that controlling the message?